Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

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Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:51 am

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Why has the MPAA been so slow to act against the huge threat that pimped-out KODI boxes must pose to their intellectual property rights?

It's not just that the dropbox-based system is so entrenched that it's a threat, it's also that the user-interface is very slick and now you can buy these things off the shelf (or from AliExpress) and simply plug them in to gain access to almost every movie and TV show that has ever been produced.

Could it be that the authorities simply don't have an effective answer to this form of piracy?

Or have they perhaps learned that the claimed "threat" actually has very little effect on their bottom line and actually seems to act as a sales-tool as much as anything?

You tell me.
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby phill » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:26 am

first thing i have noticed as a bottom line
the quality of most of the new programs has gone up in the last 3 years ( still going up noticeably year by year )
so its hard to say these things have had a negative effect in the final outcome
perhaps makers were charging heaps for crap and that has had to change ( insert name of local provider if wanted )

there was a major attack by dish tv and a few others some months ago ( described by some as the most terrifying 2 days of their lives )
the first 12 hours were mayhem .. lots of devs pulling their stuff off the net and almost everything else got orphaned
but unlike the normal whack a mole response ..... this one was different
it was more like cutting up jelly fish .. where each fragment grew back into its own separate and complete clone entity
what were 1 or 2 became 5-10
new completely different streaming tools soon followed
new devs returned a little more secretive than before
new and larger repositories formed and master ones containing most known ones became popular

this is where we now sit
posing the question
what will they achieve if they attack again
knowing
anything less than a guaranteed total victory will make the problem even worse
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby hagfish » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:47 am

My take is that the studios realised they were getting nowhere playing torrent-site wack-a-mole. Back in the day, the torrent sites got page impressions for their ads, the punters got their telly, all was right with the world. If a torrent site went down, advertising provided a strong incentive for it to pop up again 24 hours later with a new URL.

Along came the drop-box systems, and they - too - delivered lots of page impressions, and lots of content to those using browsers.

Then we get the likes of TV-addons that is basically 'pirating from the pirates'. Users get convenient access to content, without wading through hideous ads. The system is so good, there's no earthly reason to visit a filthy torrent site ever again. The torrent sites may be beaten, simply by starving them of oxygen.

Likewise, the drop-box sites are increasingly demanding a subscription for access to content. If they can't get subs or page impressions for their ads, Kodi will fall over through lack of content - it's just a leech, after all.

When Kodi falls over, people will reluctantly go back to the torrent sites, only to find that they are no longer there. If a pirate can't make an honest buck, why bother? Studios win. Hah!
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby GSVNoFixedAbode » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:18 am

hagfish wrote:Likewise, the drop-box sites are increasingly demanding a subscription for access to content. If they can't get subs or page impressions for their ads, Kodi will fall over through lack of content - it's just a leech, after all.

When Kodi falls over, people will reluctantly go back to the torrent sites, only to find that they are no longer there. If a pirate can't make an honest buck, why bother? Studios win. Hah!

I'm not sure Kodi-supplied streams will fail but the content change is already happening: if you want a reliable list of HD (720 &1080p) sources then apparently you need to $ubscribe to another indexing service from within the add-ons. Non-subscribers will see 1 or 2 HD/720p feeds, or just SD feeds, with low reliability.

Personally, if money is involved I'd prefer any money I spend to go to the Content creators rather than middlemen (be they studio moguls or profiteers). I've got Netflix, Neon, and Kodi. With the vast audience available for Kodi usage, you'd think the Studios could offer a competitive $monthly indexing service themselves. Surely 1000 people paying $2 is better than 10 people paying $20?
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby phill » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:38 am

GSVNoFixedAbode wrote: Surely 1000 people paying $2 is better than 10 people paying $20?


heresy i say

dont you dare repeat that around sky's richard richard head
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby hagfish » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:02 am

admin wrote:Surely 1000 people paying $2 is better than 10 people paying $20?


Why collect two bucks a month from 1000 demanding, tech-savvy people when you can much more easily collect $100/month from 20 people - and show them ads! The system doesn't have to remember what they've watched, or where they got up to. They've never known any better - just feed them live sports and endless tripe and they eat it up!

The reason Sky can charge $$$ (and mobile providers charge a fortune for data, and Fonterra gouge us for butter etc) is that some (enough) people are willing to cough up. A small number of high-ARPU customers are way better than a horde of needy nickel'n'dime customers.
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby goosemoose » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:14 am

Just curious here, not much into "content". You mention pirated content being stored on Dropbox. You know, like Mega upload. Whats the difference here. How come the FBI/US Government aren't sending heavily armed goons around to arrest Dropbox for this? Apart from the obvious locations of the corps and their ability to "contribute to certain causes"
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby phill » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:18 am

probably because youtube is even more complicit
it holds heaps of static content and also hosts most of the sports live streams
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

Postby paulw » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:16 pm

Bruce. You do realize that the MPAA along with your council read this site every day and now will be issuing take down notices for todays column and for the sites mentioned. ??

Problem with the MPAA they didn't learn from the RIAA who opened up it's catalogs for most people to access and buy. The movie industry id still in the 1990s protecting it's patches so that the likes of Sky can block anyone else (like Netflix NZ) from access this content. They need to move with the times or get behind like Sky has.
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Re: Why so slow MPAA? (18 Oct, 2017)

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