Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

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Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:09 am

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Is there any point in courts making suppression orders in the age of the Internet?

Given that suppression orders are often essential to ensure justice, might it be time to forge an international treaty designed to provide for cross-border enforcement of such orders -- so that news organisations in other countries can't effectively circumvent the intention of those orders?

Or will too many politicians and civil servants have to get off their chuffs and do some work for that to happen?

How come we were able to revise the copyright Act and we have international conventions to provide cross-border enforcement of copyright laws -- but absolutely nothing to support the suppression orders deemed so essential to *justice*?
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby Perry » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:20 am

What's it to be, Bruce?

A One-World Government, that's what.

Didn't the socialist French President MacMoron or somesuch suggest a EU army, recently?

Be careful what you wish for. :twisted:
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby phill » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:26 am

most of the brit papers did suppress the name
the telegraph even blocked nz readers from that article
for awhile
the further you go from the source the greater the difference in tipping the balance between a fair and impartial trial v informing a population of what happened to one of its own becomes
it wasnt that long ago that name suppression before a trial ( and now even after ) was a rarity .. now it seems almost an automatic procedure ( for even very trivial cases )
so one has to ask is it really in the interests of a fair and impartial trial .. or just another door a lawyer can open to build up the fees
( ,,,,,,,, ....... A E I O U use em sparingly theres probably not enough )

i might live and eat in a sewer .. but hey look how many of these shiney things i have got
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby hagfish » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:22 am

Some countries - and one country in particular - have 'free speech' enshrined in their constitutions. Perhaps you can get a '28th Amendment' through, that "Mostly prohibits Congress from making any law abridging the freedom of speech".
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby JonL » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:13 am

Yes, but as that country now ignores most parts of their Constitution except when it suits them, that point is moot.
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:59 am

^^^^--- what he said!
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby par_annoyed » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:10 am

This is why the internet is EVIL !!
We need to be protected from it !!
Anyone using it must be monitored FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY !!
Encryption cannot be Allowed !!
What we REALLY need is an international firewall to PROTECT US from all this nasty law breaking and terrorist stuff.....

I bet that's next. Oh yeah. Sound familiar to anyone ???
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby paulw » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:53 pm

In the US this lowlife would have had his pix and name all over the media when he was arrested plus if found guilty he would have go the death sentence or life meaning 99 years. Here he will get life and be out in 8 years maybe even an instant fine and home detention. In this country murder is almost the same as a traffic ticket for DUI.
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby decibel » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:17 pm

If the courts are serious, why don't they prosecute the British reporters who are in NZ ?
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Re: Justice Minister, meet the internet (12 Dec, 2018)

Postby phill » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:43 pm

https://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=281737
tell me how justice is served by this one
it will be a judge trial unless there is some really strange circumstances
so apart from the lawyer scabbing a few more funds and a temporary stay of embarrassment for the accused .. how is justice changed in anyway
by publishing or not publishing
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