More than five eyes watching the Net (11 Nov, 2014)

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More than five eyes watching the Net (11 Nov, 2014)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:35 am

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Why is internal Russian net traffic being directed through a China Telecom presence in Germany?

An innocent peering arrangement or spying?

Given the ease with which Net traffic can be hijacked and surveiled, are we not fools for not using hard-encryption by default?

Is https enough to protect our data or is it time for an open-source hard encryption standard that can safely deliver safety and security to all Net users, whist keeping our data, speech and privacy safe from the eyes of others (including paranoid governments)?
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Re: More than five eyes watching the Net (11 Nov, 2014)

Postby goosemoose » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:09 am

Everything should be https these days. No one on the internet can be trusted these days and it's safe to assume that all your traffic will be monitored. I start up tor every now and again to do innocuous things. A bit of prodding here and there never goes amiss. Any ways as I've said before all my terrorism related activities are normally done face to face down the pub where you'd notice a chap in a bit too sharpish suit drinking a shandy or water.

It's also funny how as well as terrorism they use the pedophile lie to justify more surveillance yet with all that we've just unwittingly let one go to Chile. I'd be calling them out on that one.
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Re: More than five eyes watching the Net (11 Nov, 2014)

Postby hagfish » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:58 am

B-but if I limit myself to https sites, I won't be able to read my favourite blog :mrgreen:

At least with unencrypted transmissions, no one is lulled into a false sense of security. Pretty soon we'll have Siri and Echo and Cortana and Google Now all listening all the time. Visiting an unencrypted blog will be the least of our worries..
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Re: More than five eyes watching the Net (11 Nov, 2014)

Postby par_annoyed » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:42 am

You may well think that what I'm about to say "isn't the point" but nevertheless -

I just assume someone is watching ALL my traffic, one way or another. I'm so cynical that I'm not convinced that https is actually all that much harder to decode, especially when you've got the kind of money and resources that, say, the USA, or even China, has. That's even before you get into the 'conspiracy' type areas where there may, or may not, be a 'backdoor' into many/all of the encryption algorithms in use.

I read a couple of days ago that a group of students in the US made up a card reader which can use the 'pay wave' functionality to steal the $70 (or whatever) from the card whilst in your wallet and back pocket - and they even update the so called 'unique key' so the transaction looks real to everyone, including the bank.
This was supposed to be impossible without approved equipment...... I don't know if this is actually true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

of COURSE the 5 eyes have taps on the main data cables out of NZ - how else would they do it ??

Do I have any trouble believing that the Chinese companies have back doors in their firmware ? No.
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Re: More than five eyes watching the Net (11 Nov, 2014)

Postby par_annoyed » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:04 am

And further, although I'm not recommending it as a good film I reckon "Minority Report" has a LOT of likely future technology and usage in it.
Ignore the primary story of the "mutant psychics' and watch instead how they monitor and watch the people, track and even predict their movements by image and iris scans, and the 'hero' Tom Cruise ends up changing his eyes to escape them....

Fantastic ? Well in some aspects, but on the other hand, we have numberplate recognition in mainstream use, and facial recognition is out there too, it still needs work, but it's making progress.... I reckon the display parts are virtually there, especially having seen the holograms of Micheal Jackson, which were VERY impressive. We have global precision GPS tracking available to all, mobile phones already constantly 'leak' where they are on that grid - it doesn't take much more to be as that film portrays.

Yes, I'm sorry it's a very dark viewpoint, but unfortunately it's where I see things going. I do truly hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
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