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Oh yes, soo much better STUFF

Postby aardvark_admin » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:30 am

Remember how Stuff keeps telling us how you should support them with their donations because they're a leader in journalism?

"Stuff employs New Zealand's largest cohort of reporters, photographers and video journalists" -- but apparently they don't employ proof readers or anyone who knows how to use a spell-checker:

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Ignorance is Blissful STUFF

Postby Perry » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:49 am

There, their, they're, Bruce. :roll:

Newspapers gave up on proof readers decades ago.

The spelling bloopers are bad enough, but some of the semantics, grammar, punctuation and sentence construction are worse.

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UK campaign to protect the apostrophe ends due to 'ignorance and laziness'
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Re: Ignorance is Blissful STUFF

Postby phill » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:58 pm

Perry wrote:UK campaign to protect the apostrophe ends due to 'ignorance and laziness'[/color][/u][/url]


is there a reciprocal club that wants to get rid of it because it achieves little

it's spelt "grammar nazi"
or
" grama natzi " to those that like to annoy em
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Re: Oh yes, soo much better STUFF

Postby aardvark_admin » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:32 pm

Not so fast, an apostrophe is often *crucial* to the meaning of a phrase or sentence. Compare these two phrases for example:

engineers rule

engineer's rule

Totally different meanings, depending on whether the apostrophe is there or not. Apostrophes are sometimes essential, to dispose of them would hugely increase the ambiguity of the English language.
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Re: Oh yes, soo much better STUFF

Postby phill » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:33 pm

aardvark_admin wrote:Not so fast, an apostrophe is often *crucial* to the meaning of a phrase or sentence. Compare these two phrases for example:

engineers rule

engineer's rule

Totally different meanings, depending on whether the apostrophe is there or not. Apostrophes are sometimes essential, to dispose of them would hugely increase the ambiguity of the English language.



i can agree with ... engineer's rule

but


engineers rule

is that the measuring one
or
some guidance law

and i have never used an apostrophe when i talk
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Ignorance is Bliss

Postby Perry » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:59 pm

You've probably never used a comma when you talk, either. Or a full stop. Or upper and lower case.

Or of've (USAnglish only).

Oral speech involves pitch, tone, cadence, inflection, body language and so on. None of those are available in written language.

For illustrative purposes, you might enjoy this (comedian Victor Borge) Utube video.

Phill wrote:Is there a reciprocal club that wants to get rid of it because it achieves little?
It's spelt "grammar nazi"

Yes, but wrong name. It's actually called the Ad Hominem Club.

As Bruce observes, the apostrophe is critical-to-the-intended-meaning in certain sentences.
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Postby phill » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:39 pm

so grammar nazi's are actually ad hominem clubbing ?
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Re: Oh yes, soo much better STUFF

Postby Perry » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:48 pm

phill wrote:so grammar nazi's are actually ad hominem clubbing ?

Something like that.
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Postby GSVNoFixedAbode » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:19 am

I used to work at a certain large confectionery company - one no longer on these fair shores. The staff shop often had 'first run' products appear months before they got to the shops. One such item was a box of Cappuchino chocolates, with the name writ large on the front "Cappuchino's". That had gone past many eyeballs in marketing, printing, and production before a few of us saw it and brought it to the attention of the appropriate people. :lol:
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Re: Oh yes, soo much better STUFF

Postby phill » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am

apostrophe overkill

still not convinced
context defines most usage
why put an apostrophe on that's it makes no difference at all
and yes it does help to clarify the meaning of some it does not do so all the time
from my observations .. engineers .. the worst spellers
grammar nazis .. the worst thinkers
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