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Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:13 am

What happens if we become highly reliant on solar-generated power.... and an eclipse occurs?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... event.html

LOL.
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Re: From the "we never thought of that" department..

Postby Screw » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:38 am

The good Ole Daily Mail, one of Rup the Shocker Ocker's favorite and loud mouths!

Eclipses are usually of short duration and tend to be local. It will be a cold day in hell when ALL of Europe is eclipsed, some of it will be in sunshine!

Furthermore, there will be other things generating electricity as well as solar so it won't be that much of a prob.
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Re: From the "we never thought of that" department..

Postby enerider » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:04 pm

Problem #1: Taking the Daily Fail seriously

Anything the Daily Mail says usually has to be taken with a large and deep pit full of salt. Check sources thoroughly.

The article: "In the summer, for example, 40 per cent of Germany’s energy comes from its solar farms."
Other source of information: http://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/downloa ... y-2014.pdf

One of these things is not like the other.

Also case in point: how is this any different to what happens every night at sunset aside from the speedier darkness? Net effect would be a lack of sunlight for +2 hours on a given day?

Are there Europe-wide blackouts every single night when the solar goes offline? I should think not.
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Re: From the "we never thought of that" department..

Postby Screw » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:24 pm

There are many cases of negative hype and fear-mongering about solar anyway. Most of which is coming from the Fossie fuel gang and the nuke kings. After Fukushima got fuku'ed nuke stations are on the outer in most parts of the world.
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Re: From the "we never thought of that" department..

Postby enerider » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:35 pm

Well , I don't know how anyone really could be surprised by the fact that a lack of sunshine means a lack of solar generation.

It's rather a given that clouds, rainy days and night-time generally are not times when solar power works - thus why storage is needed. Batteries are expensive, pumped storage needs a reasonably large area uphill somewhere, plus many other variations of storage each with their own drawbacks. Large reliance on solar would demand a larger reliance on energy storage mechanisms or methods.

One of the pluses of solar power is that when it fails - it doesn't tend to emit gamma rays and poison things to an unlivable level. I think that could be the main concern with having dangerously fissile material in close proximity to population ("close" being a relative term - radiation has a nice habit of being more than able to travel as Fukushima has proven).

Sol is a reasonably stable form of an inherently unstable process; a long-term fusion reactor that will outlive many generations. Would be a shame to waste all that emitted energy for no reason! This fusion reactor also has another bonus: it is a long way away! Also we live on a reasonably effective radiation shield - now with some added complications as natural processes attempt to adjust to differences that it may or may not have experienced before - but we've only got some best guesses to go on as we have 0 living memory of things that have happened millenia prior.

Things that we do know:
- Gamma radiation is nasty. It has no friends and tends to "Kool Aid" man its way into places where its presence is undesireable.
- Octane distillates offer quite the bang for buck, are well known and understood and make some people a lot of exchange tokens because they are widely used
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