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So this is what the US has become...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:59 pm
by aardvark_admin
Wow... now the US government can effectively step in and subvert justice in the name of "security" any time it wants.

So much for democracy and "the land of the free".

The USA has clearly become a 100% facist nation where the state is above the law and courts are under the iron-fisted control of that state.

Tragic!

And they want to bring that brand of facism here under the guise of the TPPA. And our government seems willing to move hell and high-water to accommodate them. Sadly, I suspect 90% of the sheep we call NZers will remain unaware, unconcerned and be led like lambs to the slaughter.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11424037

Re: So this is what the US has become...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:27 pm
by Screw

Re: So this is what the US has become...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:18 am
by Logan Savage
They can't say they weren't warned:
In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. (James Madison, Federal Convention of 1787)


That quote is sometimes paraphrased as "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy". Well Tyranny and Oppression have come, and it was in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. :cry:

Re: So this is what the US has become...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:56 am
by Screw
The politics of fear!

Keep the population afraid and you have control over them. Goebels was a master at it. Nothing has changed since.

Re: So this is what the US has become...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:57 pm
by Logan Savage
Too true. "Bowling for Columbine" made a similar point