Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

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Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:52 am

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Are we about to see a price-hike for phone and DSL users, thanks to the Commerce Commission's farting around with setting the price Chorus can charge for its copper?

Why all the flip-flopping from the CC? Who's sleeping with who?

Or is this simply a big push to force folk onto fibre and if so, what about the huge masses who simply won't have that option for some time to come?
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby GSVNoFixedAbode » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:20 am

Forcing people onto fibre via pricing may be ok in some areas, but should only be an option where fibre is available. According to Chorus, I've still got to wait until 2019 until I can ditch the copper! :evil:
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby RoddyAxn » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:53 am

So some cell phone companies wanted band width and we as a people of New Zealand had to stomach the free sky pill.

Now we have good technology in copper data transfer and it gets throttled.

Fibre is great for upload speeds but a good wireless at the end of each street connected to fibre is just as fast for anything needed to upload to YouTube.

So it is a case of nova pay for teachers but now it is with broad band.

What we need is a little common sense.

Copper took a lot to put in. Sad to see it go.
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby paulw » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:07 am

GSVNoFixedAbode wrote:Forcing people onto fibre via pricing may be ok in some areas, but should only be an option where fibre is available. According to Chorus, I've still got to wait until 2019 until I can ditch the copper! :evil:


I'm in the same boat here in Auckland. The thing that rubs me about 20 meters away they're installing fiber but I'll have to wait a couple of years for it to progress down to my area..
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:14 am

Why not see if you can get a neighbour to fit a high-speed wireless connection and feed you from their fibre -- in return for sharing the cost of that fibre with them?

There are gigabit wireless technologies available now ( 802.11ac) that would fit the bill and give you a practical throughput of three or four times that being delivered by the fibre itself.
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby goosemoose » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:28 am

Ahh, broadband I remember that :) Never get it here so I'm not worried 8-)
Chorus will have been involved in some high level corruption here. Oops, sorry, "lobbying" (it's only called corruption when the little guys are involved). Once again, follow the money and the directorships and therein will lie the answers.
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby mad » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:00 am

Bruce, you appear to have swallowed Spark's FUD hook like and sinker,

last Friday 28th November, the UBA price was $44.98 . Now its likely to fall to $38.39 and Spark are screaming blue murder because they "expected" the price to fall to the full $34.44 price the Com Com initially proposed 2 years ago,

If Spark built their entire business model on expecting a $34 price then to be honest, they have rocks in their head and deserve to suffer,
No one seriously expected the $34 price to actually happen, either because the Com Com would recalculate it ( as has happened), or by the Government intervening, ( as they threatened to do)

What Spark's Spin Machine has managed to do is frame to media to report " the wholesale price of UBA is going up" when infact it is not,
but now when Spark say that we are holding prices despite a rising wholesale price they will be seen as heroes,

When infact they have had a wholesale price reduction and are going to quietly pocket the difference....
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby phill » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:08 am

4 mill in a yearly salary not including bonus payments = about 2 dollars ( very very roughly ) per household
that is less than Teressa gattungs salary .. presumably they have dreamed up that if 4mill gets you a reject then you must have to pay more to get something better
so let me at the salaries we pay these twats and im pretty sure i can go from the - 4 per household they are talking about to at least a + 20
( ,,,,,,,, ....... A E I O U use em sparingly theres probably not enough )

i might live and eat in a sewer .. but hey look how many of these shiney things i have got
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby DigiDog » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:23 am

GSVNoFixedAbode wrote:According to Chorus, I've still got to wait until 2019 until I can ditch the copper!

Lucky you! I live in a semi-rural area. While Chorus have run fibre to the school just 1km up the road, they've told me that the oen hundred odd homes in our village will never be connected. We can't even get VDSL2. While I'm not complaining about our current (5.5mbps down) connection, maintaining high prices for copper connections to encourage fibre uptake does not work in areas where Chorus cannot or will not provide that service.
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Re: Broadband prices to rise (3 Dec, 2014)

Postby mad » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:48 am

DigiDog wrote:
GSVNoFixedAbode wrote:According to Chorus, I've still got to wait until 2019 until I can ditch the copper!

Lucky you! I live in a semi-rural area. While Chorus have run fibre to the school just 1km up the road, they've told me that the oen hundred odd homes in our village will never be connected. We can't even get VDSL2. While I'm not complaining about our current (5.5mbps down) connection, maintaining high prices for copper connections to encourage fibre uptake does not work in areas where Chorus cannot or will not provide that service.


Then go and talk to the school about them becoming a "community internet hub." and allow their backbone to improve Internet access for your village,

http://www.minedu.govt.nz/theMinistry/EducationInitiatives/UFBInSchools/QuestionsAndAnswers/DigitalHubsForCommunities.aspx
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