Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

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Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:36 am

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How ironic that the radio-altimeters in modern commercial airliners is so similar to the old crystal sets we used to play with as kids back in the 1960s.

Everyone is passing the blame when it comes to the fiasco that is the effect 5G broadcasts can have on radio-altimeters but why? This is a problem that has been on the radar for quite some time but nobody has actually done anything to address it -- until now, when it's too late.

Is aviation safety becoming something of a joke and is safety now second to the mighty dollar?
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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby AnTFax » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:14 am

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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby hagfish » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:23 am

There are 115,000 commercial flights every single day. If the survival rate was 99.9%, that would mean that 115 flights would crash every single day – — You know who (@1whoknu)


The aviation industry doesn't have many data points – and they don't want any! They may be all about the profit, but - happily for their passengers - their profit is contingent on their safety. I can see why they are a bit leery about just 'finding out' how this goes.
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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby phill » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:20 am

i thought caa was supposed to check that all present and future changes would not effect air safety
what have they been doing about this
on the ball .. ahead of time .. changes and mods researched and ready to go ... found a form in triplicate that might work ?
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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby joeseph » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:12 pm

Have they confirmed there is actually a problem i.e. something doesn't work as expected?
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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:22 pm

Probably no more than they "confirmed" that drones pose a huge threat to aviation by way of plucking stuff out of their backsides.
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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby dingram17 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:46 pm

New Zealand and Australia benefit from being more aligned to the EU frequency bands for 3GHz 5G. Australia has 3575-3700 MHz and NZ has 3590-3750 MHz. Both are much better than the US 3700-3980 MHz, which is wayyyy closer to the RADALT spectrum.

The FAA reports on the problem are quite interesting reading. Definitely seems to be particular models that are a bit flakey.
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Re: Why 5G is upsetting airlines (19 Jan, 2022)

Postby phill » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:53 pm

dingram17 wrote:The FAA reports on the problem are quite interesting reading. Definitely seems to be particular models that are a bit flakey.


i take it the flakey problem is with the airlines hardwear ?
is it just a straight Q factor problem ?
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