Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

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Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:49 am

This column is archived at: https://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2018/0904.shtml

What would you do if NZ adopted the same "give us the decryption keys or go to jail" laws that the UK, Australia and USA seem to be adopting?

How would you feel about government-mandated back-doors being added to all encryption code?

Does *any* government have the right to dehumanise its citizens by effectively giving them zero privacy and empowering itself to listen to even their most private and intimate conversations?

What will you do if this level of outrageous demands were made of the people of NZ?

And thank you (in advance) Kiwiano for your block of random characters, within which there is some deep and meaningful statement (if only we had the decryption key!) :lol:
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby GSVNoFixedAbode » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:15 am

Law of unintended consequences, example 1: - a number of business transactions, eg HR/payroll details, require full PGP encryption. Business in Country A sends a file for processing to vendor in Country B. Vendor in Country B (not necessarily in 5Eyes) states the level of encryption as part of their business offering. For a company operating across borders this is not unusual.

If Country A has govt-mandated lower levels of security that could theoretically preclude them from using such services, even when it may be within one company's operating area.
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby phill » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:33 am

what would i do
well judging from my normal response behaviour
installing encryption for everything i do would be the first step

at least we know when we read the words .. terrorism, paedophilia and organised crime its because they want to fuk us some more
so its a pretty accurate warning sign nowadays
sort of like the canary in the mine
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby Kiwiiano » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:29 pm

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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby Kiwiiano » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:35 pm

Actually it is a recipe for No Churn Icecream, just in case the team at Waihopai need some dessert for tea.

The politicians could paint themselves into a corner with this one if enough people get sufficiently pissed off to start massive protest and civil disobedience, clogging up the 5Eyes with empty encryption. I know it probably wouldn’t happen here in NZ , the sheeples are too complacent, but overseas people are getting stroppy. There was a half-heard item on the NatProg today about hundreds of defenseless elderly women somewhere who protest every ?Saturday, facing up to heavily armed police. The powers-that-be must be genuinely scared of their determination and persistence.
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:20 pm

Sadly, as you have so rightly pointed out "it probably wouldn't happen here in NZ" because we're such a "she'll be right" bunch that all we care about is beer in the fridge, rugby on the telly and sunny days in summer.

And, on the *very* rare occasions when Kiwis do get riled up enough to make a stand, such public events are almost always simply a place where professional trouble-makers turn up to have a bit of fun -- with scant regard for the principles and rights that are under threat.

What's more, with moves to completely withdraw our right to privacy, even the ability to organise civil protests becomes lost.
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby Muscular Jam » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:48 pm

Spoofing emails from prominent politicians with apparent encryption could become an interesting protest medium.
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:33 pm

Muscular Jam wrote:Spoofing emails from prominent politicians with apparent encryption could become an interesting protest medium.

You're new here aren't you?

You do realise that there is *always* one set of rules for us... and *another* set of rules for the rule-makers. They will (naturally) be exempt from all this tosh.
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby phill » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:38 pm

politicians, snivel servants, police, and intelligence staff all need to be exempt from encryption restrictions
to protect them from "child sex offenders, terrorists and organised crime groups"
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Re: Whispering to become illegal? (4 Sep, 2018)

Postby goosemoose » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:52 pm

aardvark_admin wrote:she'll be right bunch

Kiwiiano wrote:but overseas people are getting stroppy

Ah I see you 2 are going to start the revolution. Aren't those the phrases from the code book?
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