A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

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A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:48 am

This column is archived at: https://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2018/1002.shtml

So if you want to retain your privacy when passing through NZ Customs, it could cost you $5,000. Nice earner!

But seriously, what do readers think of being forced to hand over the keys to their digital devices when passing through Customs?

Given the ease (and far greater safety) with which stuff can be transferred internationally by way of the internet, is there really any point in searching digital devices at the border?

And I wonder... if you did hand over your password (under threat of fine) and then found that a few days later your bank account had been emptied, would the bank say "sorry, no compensation, you gave your password to a third party"? You BET they would!

What a crazy world of ill-informed decision-makers we live in :-(
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Postby Perry » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:43 am

100% agree that anything a pollie says is likely to be - or be later proven to be - a lie. It just seems to be the nature of their game.

As Bruce observes, such Draconian laws will likely only have the stupid catching the stupider.

The artful dodgers and the cunning will know what to do.

But the bona fide citizens travelling will have to endure the associated crap that goes with such laws.
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:48 am

Yes, and typical of our dim-bulb media these days... they did ask how many times electronic devices had been searched but they failed to ask how many of these searches resulted in prohibited material being seized or prosecutions being laid. THAT is crucial information because if none of those searches turned up anything then it kind of speaks to the lunacy of this new power -- doesn't it?
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby Perry » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:02 am

Don't laugh . . .

There's a HB Arts Festival coming up.
Do journalists take their duty to inform us seriously or do market forces drive editorial decisions?

For the sum of $18, folks can go and hear excuses from Bill Ralston, Craig Cooper, Janet Wilson and Tom Belford (a local gummint pollie) about why the media is failing the NZ citizenry. Or why it isn't, if you want to believe that.

Oh, the Internet's to blame, you see. :twisted:
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:15 am

Gosh, what a shame the queue to buy those ticket will be so long -- or I might go myself :lol:
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby phill » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:06 am

2 things i see in this
1/ has been brought up already
if the reasonable grounds for suspicion has been used for >500 searches .. what was the arrest rate and therefore how reasonable have their grounds for search been
or is it just a catch-all phrase that means they can search anyone anywhere any time for any reason
is a ~ 0.5% outcome a reasonable reason in our courts

2/ its in what they dont search that may tell us more
if they dont bother with cloud searches or internet transfers ... how much of that is regularly being scanned ( effectively ) by other means
.. it does seem geared to making sure people transfer such things over the net
how hard is it to hide 'n' micro sd cards each now capable of > 250 gig in or amongst other stuff ( even putting nail polish on the contacts and inserting them in a normal slot would work by not showing up in a search )
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby goosemoose » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:09 am

Before you go overseas change you password to a racist, bigoted, sweary anti religious one and then tell them. Loudly. Then once overseas SSH your critical data from home to your laptop.
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby phill » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:16 am

mine would be geared more towards the people opening it
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:20 am

Password: NoIWontGiveYouThePassword

Customs: Good day sir, can we have the password for this computer
Me: No I won't give you the password

Customs: I'm sorry sir, you are required by law to give us the password or face a $5,000 fine
Me: No I won't give you the password

Customs: Very well sir, here is the fine notification, payable within 28 days
Me: What did I do wrong???
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Re: A forgotten password could cost you $5,000 (2 Oct, 2018)

Postby latewings » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:16 am

I expect this law to cover every single person entering the country, regardless of position held: from Janitor to PM with no exceptions.

Otherwise its not fit for purpose.
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