Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

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Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed May 19, 2021 5:07 am

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We don't have a cure for it and innoculating against ransomware requires a lot of effort without any guarantee of 100 percent effectiveness.

So what's the answer?

And how cool is it that I get to stick my head into a whirling magnet cooled by liquid helium while hackers are taking control of the hospital's computers?

What could possibly go wrong with that scenario? :lol:
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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby phill » Wed May 19, 2021 7:03 am

duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, duck, soup

https://www.d7xtech.com/
used to be foolish it
i thought windross had sorted ransomware attacks
seems the hype was .. as usual .. hype
and may go back to installing this specialised anti ransomware app
( ,,,,,,,, ....... A E I O U use em sparingly theres probably not enough )

i might live and eat in a sewer .. but hey look how many of these shiny things i have got
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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby Kiwiiano » Wed May 19, 2021 9:30 am

Backups of backups of backups may work but the truly evil will infect a site then wait 6 weeks/months until all the archives are infested so as soon as they are brought forward, WHAM!! Back to square one. Insisting that all emails are automatically converted to plain txt might help but modern emails have too many important attachments.
Or is this a consequence of continuing to use M$ products? Would they be any safer working entirely on a Linux platform?
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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby phill » Wed May 19, 2021 9:52 am

as most use the eye dee ten tee install method
likely not .. the method is well proven and applied with extreme ingenuity
M$ just makes it easier
( ,,,,,,,, ....... A E I O U use em sparingly theres probably not enough )

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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby Perry » Wed May 19, 2021 10:09 am

Kiwiiano wrote:Or is this a consequence of continuing to use M$ products?
Yes.

Kiwiiano wrote:Would they be any safer working entirely on a Linux platform?
That was suggested a decade or so ago. Not for security, but cost savings. I bet the local microcrapt people rushed in with a specially discounted offer to plug the potential hole, because no more was heard thereafter about hospitals moving to open source software.

With comrade commissar Cindy's socio-commie pal's Little-Care plan for hospitals and centralisation in W'gton, it may not just be one hospital board, next time. Might be the entire country.

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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby goosemoose » Wed May 19, 2021 10:26 am

Kiwiiano wrote:Or is this a consequence of continuing to use M$ products? Would they be any safer working entirely on a Linux platform?

I don't think so. Probably got to do with the headlong rush of shoving everything in the cloud. Not just MS, everyone's at it. If you're using an online cloudy system it would not surprise you if you got emails from them announcing new features, asking you to pay the monthly bill, upgrades etc blah blah blah, it can be endless.

I suspect what happened here is some hapless user got an email saying "Your <$CLOUDY_PRODUCT_NEEDS_SOMETHING>" so they thought, "That sounds reasonable" so they clicked and voila, the rest is history.

Either that or they wanted to be a hit with the chicks and an email turned up offering up the secrets. So they......
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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby Perry » Wed May 19, 2021 11:15 am

As goose (or someone) said, long ago: the cloud is simply someone else's data storage computer, somewhere else.

Thanks, but no thanks.
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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Wed May 19, 2021 11:16 am

goosemoose wrote:Either that or they wanted to be a hit with the chicks and an email turned up offering up the secrets. So they......

Not a total loss then... at least someone will be rejoicing over their newly enlarged man-parts eh? :lol:
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Re: Oh bugger... ransomware and hospitals (19 May, 2021)

Postby Kiwiiano » Wed May 19, 2021 1:05 pm

What if all data stored on DHB servers was encrypted and only authorised computers had the decryption capability. It would block ransom demands threatening to leak patient information because even if they did, no one unauthorised could access it. No help for threats to lock info up unless the ransom is paid but the most recent undamaged info would have the system restored pronto.
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