Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

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Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Mon May 31, 2021 8:10 am

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How can it be that our "platforms" are so clearly acting like publishers but are still being granted the immunities reserved only for "platforms" that do not exercise editorial control?

Why is it that these mega-corps are also allowed to get away without paying their fair share of tax?

In fact, why have they become virtually "untouchable" in a way that even the most powerful crime gang-lords have never achieved?

Should we be concerned about what may be going on behind closed doors and the covert deals that one could be excused for believing are happing between those with almost unlimited wealth and those who'd like to have more wealth?
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby Perry » Mon May 31, 2021 8:37 am

Too big to prosecute.*

The RSV of:

Too big to fail.

Although the EU does seem to have a go, every so often.
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Mon May 31, 2021 9:24 am

"Too big to prosecute" or... too much inside information to be prosecuted?

Remember, governments, their elected representatives and employees also use Google services so if there's anything bad going on... Google will know about it and that provides *immense* leverage.

As for the EU's prosecutions... could that be simply to create the illusion that nothing is going on behind the closed doors?
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby hagfish » Mon May 31, 2021 9:46 am

Theres' a time-honoured method of letting tech giants fail by way of their own hubris. When that doesn't work, legislators can step in, as they did with Microsoft. If Google has to split up, I suppose they would spin out Search, YouTube, Android etc, and they would all become 'siblings' under the Alphabet umbrella. Perhaps something would change; perhaps not. Perhaps if certain information-sharing protocols can be established between the tech companies and the government, all this unpleasantness can just 'go away', and no one will look too hard at anyone's tax-efficiency arrangements.

It really does seem like the US government has been captured, and abrogated its responsibility to the EU. The recent court case between Apple and Epic was fascinating, but we can't rely on these companies to sue one another into good behaviour.
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby GCSBIntercepts » Mon May 31, 2021 12:45 pm

You can't talk about our government contractors like that Bruce?

:mrgreen:

Didn't Voltaire say something about those that you cannot criticize?
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby greven » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:07 am

Do we really want to use a platform that allows everything not explicitly illegal?
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:15 am

greven wrote:Do we really want to use a platform that allows everything not explicitly illegal?

Can you give an example of something that is not illegal that we should not allow as an example of free speech?
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby Malcolm » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:24 am

Hate speech which skirts around the letter of the law. False information, especially around vaccines and medicine. These are dangerous for the community but not explicitly illegal. Another example would be photos of girls which are risque in nature but because no nudity are once again not illegal.
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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby Perry » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:29 am

Malcolm wrote:Hate speech which skirts around the letter of the law. False information, especially around vaccines and medicine. These are dangerous for the community but not explicitly illegal. Another example would be photos of girls which are risque in nature but because no nudity are once again not illegal.

The problem with such forms of censorship is what we've discussed many times. Who decides where the line is?

Most of the 'action' and 'crime' movies of today are be-sprinkled with obscene language. Not so long ago, they would never have made it past the Chief Censor.

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Re: Publisher or platform? (31 May, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:41 am

Malcolm wrote:Hate speech which skirts around the letter of the law. False information, especially around vaccines and medicine. These are dangerous for the community but not explicitly illegal. Another example would be photos of girls which are risque in nature but because no nudity are once again not illegal.

I have no problem with any of that. Surprisingly... it's not compulsory to read everything, watch everything or listen to everything that appears on the Net. We need to teach people to be more discerning and selective in their own perusal of content -- not to simply try and have it banned because it is not concordant with their own views, ideologies or beliefs.
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