We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

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We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:24 am

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"Be kind"

Wow... that's sage advice isn't it?

Should we "be kind" to a government that, to be brutally honest, has really dropped the ball in respect to the management of our CV19 response?

We've had a long time of complacency in which we should have been actively vaccinating our population but we sat on our arses and did nothing.

Despite widespread advice that it was a bad idea, we opened a travel bubble with Australia to appease the tourism industry and thus it seems provided the perfect path for CV19-delta to enter our community.

And now we're told "be kind".

Sigh... we get the government we deserve :-(
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby cjet » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:18 am

Kick
In
‘Nads
Definitely

You asked for KIND

I blame the new Governor General pick
A nice lady no one knows
But rt hon win don’t was begging for it

And there in lays the rub

What we needed was pardons
The Governor General pardon

Like arther Alan Thomas
We needed royal prerogative

Now we go delta ramming us

And coming to a super market near you

How long till the old ways don’t work

It’s time to cry
If only taliban could pardon us

What Ebola is worse?

Let’s get the old health minister back

The guy that went bush and enjoyed life
He social distance and bike rides

Time to get back to risk taking
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby GSVNoFixedAbode » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:49 am

The "Be kind" mantra still holds - sarcasm included in that btw.

Should the travel bubble have gone ahead as it did? Nope, like others not reliant on Tourism, I also thought it too risky until we'd finished the vaccine rollout. However, the pressure from the business sector and ALL short-sighted money-now people was greater than the pressure from the scientific community. Hell, there are still a very large number of voices saying this lockdown is too extreme and shouldn't be happening because it'll hurt the economy. There are people who do not seem to understand the very simple and fundamental truths that economies will recover (as we've proven), but dead people don't (as Aussie has proven).

Government's overall response: not as good as it could have been but better than the alternative, Just be thankful that we haven't gone with what National talking heads (I won't call any of them leaders) have been advocating. To them, the economy is more important than individual safety, and they seem to miss the fact that NZ's economy over the past 12 months, and projected next 12-24 months, is pretty much world-leading due primarily to our Covid response to date.
Unemployment:
NZ: 4%
US: 5.4%
UK: 4.7%

Debt-to-GDP in 2024
NZ:28%
US: 111%
UK: 101.5%

#Covid19 Deaths Per 1M
NZ: 5.2
US: 1,893.8
UK: 1,964.1
(Source: Marc Daalder/Newsroom)
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby paulw » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:49 am

Personally I think that the travel bubble with Australia and the Pacific Islands was a good idea. Covid 19 now called Covid 501 that "appears" to have come from Ozz. Now it's here we need to get the vax rate up as it's been terribly slow to date and start to open up like the rest of the world . We can't stay a hermit kingdom forever.
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby phill » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:11 am

( ,,,,,,,, ....... A E I O U use em sparingly theres probably not enough )

i might live and eat in a sewer .. but hey look how many of these shiny things i have got
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby Perry » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:17 am

paulw wrote:We can't stay a hermit kingdom forever.

That's the thing that no one seems to be talking about.
The same applies to other countries, as well.

What happened in 1918 - the Spanish Flu? Many millions died.
The world somehow got over it.
The sciences of immunology and vaccination were at what stage, in that era?
Did it start in a lab, in Pamplona? Those dastardly Basque Separatists to blame? :twisted:

Bruce wrote:Sadly, it's not those at the top of the industry ladder who will suffer but those minimum-wage workers in the tourism industry that will need to gear up for a career change. The irony is that NZ has a labour shortage and if we'd kept our borders closed those workers would have had no problems finding work. Now... well who knows?

Would such displaced staff want alternative employment?
Comrade commissar Cindy will be their shepherd;
She maketh them to lie down in WINZ pastures;
They shall not work. Just vote for Cindy.
And procreate abundantly.


Where are the futurists' prognostications, these days? All around me,
I see 'conventional' orchards being pulled out and replaced with designed-
for-robotic-picking-machines re-plantings.
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby greven » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:38 pm

Looks like it was a MIQ fail. I think that is even worse than a bubble fail.

Given the number of new cases today, there is no way the greater Auckland area will be coming out of lockdown any time soon. What do you think will be the fate of the rest of the country in Friday's announcement?
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:52 pm

To be honest, I'd rather they played it safe than yeild to pressure to drop the rest of the country back to L3 after just 3 days. I think it's just too early to be sure that there aren't undetected (perhaps asymptomatic) cases outside AK and Coromandel.

Still we know how easily the government is swayed by the pleas of those who stand to lose a buck or two :-(
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby phill » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:40 pm

paulw wrote: start to open up like the rest of the world . We can't stay a hermit kingdom forever.


most of the rest of the world never did a lock down so nothing to start up again
most of the ones that did made a half assed effort at it ... same point

it isnt forever .. its not going to be that long at all

sorry to many trumpisms not to correct you
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Re: We said it was a bad idea (19 Aug, 2021)

Postby Malcolm » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:22 pm

aardvark_admin wrote:To be honest, I'd rather they played it safe than yeild to pressure to drop the rest of the country back to L3 after just 3 days. I think it's just too early to be sure that there aren't undetected (perhaps asymptomatic) cases outside AK and Coromandel.

Still we know how easily the government is swayed by the pleas of those who stand to lose a buck or two :-(


I imagine the decision will be made based on how much testing is being done outside Auckland/Coromandel. As well as the wastewater surveillance testing etc. But after the weekend and if nothing pops up in the South Island I can see us moving to a more relaxed level.
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