The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby Perry » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:47 am

It only seems complex, really.
Start with a self-sufficient 'family' unit.
Add barter and Division of Labour and proceed from there.

The main problem occurs when the money available is greater than the production of goods and services.
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby aardvark_admin » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:49 am

If we're being told that debt can be erased by simply printing more money... that is incorrect.

What printing more money does is to simply reduce the *actual* value of every dollar -- which means we are in fact asking those with savings to pay the debt by effectively stealing the value of those savings from them.
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby GCSBIntercepts » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:37 am

And whom is responsible for letting delta into NZ?
Whom advised the NZ government about carona and purity control?

Who bears the liability?

Well, you should not be asking how to rpay this. You should be asking when is it too late to get out of NZ.

Because carona will come back, and then you will see exactly what happens when sloppy socialist thinking and LGBTQIA+ meets evolutionary biology.

And you trusted these people to run/ruin your country?
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby jo2lo » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:13 am

NZ has already "enjoyed" the National Party's Health Reform where they charged for hospital care.
You had to pay up to $500 per year if you ended up in hospital care.
One of the 'oddities' of this $500 was that people would get told they were in care across two financial years, and as a result now needed to pay for the last and the current financial year, so in fact $1000.00 !!
I suspect some dodgy finance controller minister (the mother f&c$er of all budgets) might have had something to do with that little quirk!

Definitely a right leaning little bit of legislation that shafted the poor, while the rich continued paying for their private hospital care, (unless you happened to be PM Jenny Shipley, in urgent need of an angioplasty, who then jumped the queue of EVERYONE in the public health system, and had some stents inserted) while others in more urgent ill health got to wait until they were too unwell to get further medical care and just had to die instead.
Obviously the rich, and powerful are far more important than the proles! :evil:
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby Perry » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:21 am

Bruce wrote:If we're being told that debt can be erased by simply printing more money... that is incorrect.

What printing more money does is to simply reduce the *actual* value of every dollar -- which means we are in fact asking those with savings to pay the debt by effectively stealing the value of those savings from them.

I often surmise that the words we use can be an enemy to clarity.

It is not the value of the dollar that's gone down. A dollar is a dollar is a dollar.

It's the purchasing power [PP] of that dollar, related to credibility / belief that others will accord it whatever PP it has, in the same way. If there's a calamitous breakdown of society's socio-economic structures, paper currency (money) will cease to be anything other than something to light a fire with. The 'currency' of times like that would be food, water, fuel/energy, shelter and suchlike.

E.g. When various people (who should know better) say that the 'value' of their house has gone up, that would only be true if all other houses had not gone up in 'value.' When they all go up simultaneously by approx. the same factor, the reality is that the numbers have changed - that's all.
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby decibel » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:57 am

hagfish wrote:If the NZ Government wanted to cancel some money, it could impose a capital gains tax of, say 50%, on every property sold from now on. No loopholes; no exceptions. All the money the govt has issued lately seems to have sloshed into housing. Kill two birds with one stone. Three birds, if you include the government that enacts such a measure :mrgreen:

Yes, that would raise a lot of money for the government - but what would house vendors do?
I know what I would do if any CGT was demanded from me - add it to the sale price.

The big loser here would be first home buyers.
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby Perry » Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:06 pm

decibel wrote:I know what I would do if any CGT was demanded from me - add it to the sale price.

One of the primary rules of advertising: take a product or service's weakest point and eulogise it to hell.

In this case, make out there's a gain, when it's only a change in numbers, as I've postulated, earlier.

decibel wrote:The big loser here would be first home buyers.

Go wash your mouth out with soap! You obviously don't understand socio-commie illogic.

I.e. Adding a tax to a house makes them cheaper and more affordable. :roll:

Re-education camp for you!
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby GCSBIntercepts » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:37 pm

You do all realize that you are watching one of the greatest robberies in human history?
Whilst you are all lining up for your kill shots, staying at home watching fear porn and listening to the Podium of Tooth?

Behind the scenes billions are being squirreled away whilst your intelligence services are playing office politics of Fag, Woke and LGBT!
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby GCSBIntercepts » Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:39 pm

You do all realize that you are watching one of the greatest robberies in human history?
Whilst you are all lining up for your kill shots, staying at home watching fear porn and listening to the Podium of Tooth?

Behind the scenes billions are being squirreled away whilst your intelligence services are playing office politics of Fag, Woke and LGBT!
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Re: The Covid tax is coming (9 Sep, 2021)

Postby phill » Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:15 pm

oohh noo
i haven't realised
i have had my second so no lines
i listen to see what's happening in the world
i suppose im a bit slack by not doing the trump university facebook philosophy course though
still we can listen to you for that ey
( ,,,,,,,, ....... A E I O U use em sparingly theres probably not enough )

i might live and eat in a sewer .. but hey look how many of these shiny things i have got
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