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GUILTY!

Postby Malcolm » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:47 pm

In a surprise to absolutely no one John BAnks was found guilty of filing a false electoral return.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11268276

Now we wait to see what kind of a punishment he gets, but that is not until 1 August and parliament rises for the election a day before that so it will make bugger all difference to the remainder of this term.
There is a chance he will apply for a discharge without conviction and a he will probably appeal if that is denied.
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Re: GUILTY!

Postby goosemoose » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:23 pm

Slap on the wrist, told not to do it again, oops he's no longer in parliament, thats fine then, a knighthood and he'll still keep all his perks for his service to himself, his cronys and backers oops ^H^H^H^H his country.

Maximum jail term, no parole. Then enact another law while he's inside to never let him out. Buts thats just me, other people probably reckon he's a great bloke, a man of integrity so to speak.
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Re: GUILTY!

Postby aardvark_admin » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:23 pm

Yeah, and I see they're relying on a technicality (the fact that the conviction is not official yet) to keep him in parliament.

And this after JK pledged to hold his government to a high standards -- but are still prepared to overlook Banks' proven guilt in the interests of retaining power to the end.

Why not just be honest in your party pledge: "Self-interest first, last and always!"
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Re: GUILTY!

Postby Screw » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:28 pm

Depends, if he gets a conviction he'll lose his parliamentary perks as he is still a MP. If he gets a discharge he will keep them. What's your bet on the outcome?
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Re: GUILTY!

Postby pctek » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:45 pm

aardvark_admin wrote:
And this after JK pledged to hold his government to a high standards

LOL, and you believe MPs?
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Re: GUILTY!

Postby aardvark_admin » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:06 pm

But hang on... when someone offers to deliver something (high standards), you accept that offer and pay for it with your vote, isn't a contract formed?

if that contract is then violated -- isn't that a fraud?

Should we allow those who commit such fraud to remain in parliament?

Ought they not be subject to the same penalties as those who take money on the promise of delivering a service and fail to do so?

I'm sure someone would say "well if they don't honour their contracts then they'll be punished by voters who won't vote for them next time... to which I say -- so if someone defrauds someone of money, they ought not be fined or imprisoned because the punishment will be that those people won't give that fraudster money next time he asks for it?

Oh, that's right -- at worst, the former is "unlawful" but at best the latter is "illegal" -- so no penalty for the politicians and prison for everyone else.
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